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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) vowed Sunday, after an Israeli-Palestinian security meeting, to continue attacks on militants suspected of planning suicide bombings, a senior Israeli political source said.

With attention focused on a cycle of violence jeopardizing the U.S.-backed peace "road map," Jewish settlers have quietly set up five new outposts in the occupied West Bank since Israel last week began dismantling such sites, a monitoring group said.


The United States has appealed for restraint from both sides after a week of bloodshed in which more than 50 people were killed. Israeli Major-General Amos Gilad and Palestinian security chief Mohammed Dahlan held talks late Saturday.


But there was no sign of a breakthrough after the meeting, which raised the possibility of an Israeli pullback in the northern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) in exchange for a pledge by the Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) to crack down on militants in the area.


"Israel will continue to act against targets defined as 'ticking bombs'," the political source quoted Sharon as saying at his weekly cabinet meeting. "If Palestinians do not act against the terror infrastructure, Israel will do so."


Last week's violence included the killing of four soldiers in the Gaza Strip, a Palestinian suicide bombing on a Jerusalem bus and seven Israeli helicopter strikes on militants, including an attempt to assassinate a Hamas leader, in which civilians also died.


President Bush (news - web sites) has sent the veteran diplomat John Wolf to the region to prevent the failure of the peace plan affirmed at a June 4 summit in Aqaba, Jordan, with Sharon and Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas.


"Specifically, he will be coordinating, monitoring and promoting implementation of the road map...including the commitments made by Israeli and Palestinian leaders at the Aqaba summit," the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv said in a statement.


As part of the reciprocal steps charted by the road map, Israel last week began fulfilling a pledge that Sharon made at the summit to dismantle settler outposts set up in the West Bank without government authorization in the past two years.


Ten outposts were scrapped but the Peace Now group, which monitors settlement activity on land Israel occupied in the 1967 Middle East war, said five new ones -- only one of them inhabited -- had since gone up.


TROOPS KILL MILITANT IN GAZA


In fresh violence Sunday in the northern Gaza Strip, Israeli soldiers shot dead a Palestinian militant affiliated with the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, linked to Palestinian President Yasser Arafat (news - web sites)'s Fatah (news - web sites) faction.


Israel has criticized Abbas and Dahlan for preferring to negotiate a deal with militants on ceasing attacks on Israelis rather than carry out a crackdown mandated by the peace plan.


Palestinian officials say Israel's targeting of militants undermines Abbas's authority and all attempts to halt violence.


The road map calls for reciprocal steps to stop the bloodshed and envisages a Palestinian state by 2005.


Hamas, the main group behind a campaign of suicide bombings against Israelis, said it would reject any deal between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.


Egyptian officials, seeking to end the wave of violence, traveled to Gaza Sunday to try to coax Hamas into resuming talks with Abbas, security sources said.





In the Gaza Strip, an eight-year-old girl died of wounds suffered in an Israeli helicopter strike last week, Palestinian medical officials said.
 

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Sharon kills it's "defense".
Yassar kills it's "terrorism".

They're both evil.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Sharon kills it's "defense".
Yassar kills it's "terrorism". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a lot easier to understand if you know who controls the American mass media.
 

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I'm fully aware & disgusted by the truth ...

but I won't say it for the risk of being label "anti-semitic" <again>
 

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Lander say what's on your mind.

"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
 

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What Israel is doin is exactly what the US would do and is basically what the US is doing. We are trying to kill known terrorists as well. Why is it OK for the US but not for Israel who bears the brunt of terrorist attacks more often? Just a question.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Why is it OK for the US but not for Israel who bears the brunt of terrorist attacks more often? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It all depends on who you consider the "terrorists" over there.
 

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Those who strap explosives to themselves and then detonate them among as many civilians as possible on buses, in hotels, restuarants, etc. I consider that terrorism. And those that support, fund, direct those people are terrorists. It's akin to flying a plane into a building, just on a smaller scale.
 

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Lander, B4L, jjgold - I am not very familiar with the whole Palestinian/Israeli conflict can you explain it to me? In your own words please. I can go to a website and copy an paste.

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Both Palestinians and Israelis are semitic peoples...so there's really no way around the whole anti-semite label.
 

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I guarantee you that if Palestinians quit blowing themselves up on Israeli buses, there will be peace.

Once again, BFL, Lander, jjgold - can you tell me in your own words why there is fighting between Israel and the Palestinians?

KMAN
 

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Lander, Israel is targeting known terrorists and murderers -- other wise known as CRIMINALS. These Palestinians themselves refuse to bring these criminals to justice so Israel is doing it themselves. On the other hand, Hamas and suicide bombers and the like are killing completelty innocent civilians with no warning.

If you see NO difference then I am speechless.

I'm not saying what Israel is doing is the best course of action or that they couldn;t be more careful about what they're doing or that they have acted perfectly, BUT they are not equal in terms of evil.
 

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D2,
If I offer evidence where an <Isreali> soldier in the NO OCCUPATION ZONE ran over a crowd of unarmed peaceful Palestine protesters that were trying to stop their homes from being demolished & killed a woman ...

.. would you THEN say the Israli soldier was a terrorist? or simply a soldier.

Thanks.

btw - D2 & KMAN .. I find your hostility in my <suggestion> that Isreal may be acting in an <evil> manner very interesting?
It seems it's ok to kill as long as your <own> are the <killers> and not the <killed> ... otherwise the act would be <terrorist> ... as if to imply that they are even beneath a human label of <soldier> - sub-human so to speak.
Very interesting indeed.
 
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who's your daddy, sharon? who? who?

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Yes, I would say THAT is wrong and should be treated as a crime. But what I'm addressing is the heading here -- Sharon vowing more attacks on militants. These militants are admitted terrorists and their jurisdiction is making no attempt to stop them or arrest them. IMO that gives its victims (the Israelis) the right to go after them themselves. In any case, such retaliation simply cannot be viewed as the immoral equivalent of terrorism on innocents.

Again, Israel does plenty of things wrong and I;m sure thye have commiteed crimes as well. But as far as their policy of trying to kill the known terrorists, it is hard for us to criticize since it is basically exactly what we are trying to do with Al Qaeda -- root them out.
 

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Lander, as to your last point you had me a little confused...it is not OK for Israel to intentionally or recklessly kill innocent Palestinian civilians. However, I believe they are in the right to kill known terrosist and Hamas members. These people are criminals who are not being prosecuted by their own people. Israel is trying to "root them out" just as the US is trying to root out Al Qaeda. Same thing.
 

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D2, good clarification.

My point is that this label of <terrorist> is being used as if the <terrorists> are beneath a human-level of their opponents labeled as <soldiers>. If Palestine has the resources that Isreal did & Isreal had nothing .. the roles would certainly be reversed. I strongly believe that the Irsealis would do <anything> possible to fight back.

Consider our own <Revolutionary> War ... we too were labeled as fighting <dirty>. Fake uniforms, ambushes, fighting with pitchforks ...
our ancestors did what they had to do.

Now, some guy that hijacks a plane is a terrorist - a Palestine in the middle or a <war> resorting to the only means he has IS NOT (IMO).
 

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D2,
They are <equally> wrong IMO.
 

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